The Freedom Party (PVV) is nearly the bigggest party in Dutch parliament.
In the graph below the grey line with the red arrow pointing to it represents the number of seats the PVV would get in in polls conducted by peil.nl, a Dutch polling firm.
The grey line representing the PVV nears the blue line of the right-liberal VVD, the dominant party in the current government.
Most Leftist parties are falling as well with the exeption of the Euro-sceptic but hard left SP, represented by the bright red line. The polls reflect the growing weariness of the Dutch public with the process of European unification in the EU and the hostility of the public to Multi-culturalism, immigration and Islam.
Available on two addresses: snouck.blogspot.com and www.islamineurope.net and still on the subjects: European Future, Islam and Immigration from an European, mostly Dutch perspective.
Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Islam. Show all posts
Sunday, August 21, 2011
Sunday, January 23, 2011
Swiss Court convicts Israeli Author for Hate Speech
Punished for stating wrong opinions
A Swiss Judge convicted Israeli Author Avi Lipkin to paying a fine for stating in a public meeting in a Churchhall in Switzerlam that Islam is a dangerous religion which threatens Christians and Jews (German).
The closing of the European mind
All over Europe people are being hauled into courts and often indicted for saying that Islam is what it is: an agressive faith which seeks to overthrow the governments, laws and customs of non-islamic states. All over europe people are being hauled into court for though crime, for thinking forbidden thoughts and speaking their minds. The judiciary elites are hell-bent on surpressing dissent with the ruling Multi-Cultural orthodoxy.
A Swiss Judge convicted Israeli Author Avi Lipkin to paying a fine for stating in a public meeting in a Churchhall in Switzerlam that Islam is a dangerous religion which threatens Christians and Jews (German).
The closing of the European mind
All over Europe people are being hauled into courts and often indicted for saying that Islam is what it is: an agressive faith which seeks to overthrow the governments, laws and customs of non-islamic states. All over europe people are being hauled into court for though crime, for thinking forbidden thoughts and speaking their minds. The judiciary elites are hell-bent on surpressing dissent with the ruling Multi-Cultural orthodoxy.
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Islamic Terrorism Movie Italian box office success
Jihad a profitable joke in Italy
Che Bella Giornata, a film comedy on an Islamic bomb plot against a statue in an Italian Church is breaking box office records. The movie already made a whopping 42 million US Dollars and is still going strong.
The trailer gives an idea of the contents of the film
The actual script of the film is not the main issue here. The making and resonance of Che Bella Giornata is testamony to the fact that Islam and Integration of Muslim immigrants are central issues all over Europe.
Che Bella Giornata, a film comedy on an Islamic bomb plot against a statue in an Italian Church is breaking box office records. The movie already made a whopping 42 million US Dollars and is still going strong.
The trailer gives an idea of the contents of the film
The script for the film was co-written by Checco Zalone who is known for his politically-incorrect humor. .. the beautiful young Arab woman Farah (Nabira Akkari) who befriends him is actually planning to plant a bomb atop the cathedral to avenge her parents’ death in the current Gulf War.The implication of this movie's resonance
The actual script of the film is not the main issue here. The making and resonance of Che Bella Giornata is testamony to the fact that Islam and Integration of Muslim immigrants are central issues all over Europe.
Tuesday, September 21, 2010
European Turks splintering away from the mainstream
The European public and European leaders reacted with concern when the Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan opposed assimilation of Turks in Europe, specifically Germany. In 2008 Erdogan said:
There is evidence that societies in Europe are not coming together, but falling apart. Children are not going to school together. The phenomenon of "black schools" has been a contentious issue in The Netherlands for years. Some examples across Europe:
Belgium: Esther reported that a Flemish school set up separate classes for immigrants and ethnic Flemish children in response to parent requests. Read: Belgium: Apartheid in Schools.
Danmark: in two other reports Esther showed Danish schools are splitting up classes as well and the issue is alive in Sweden too. Read Danish Apartheid 1 and Danish Apartheid 2.
Germany: in his recent book "Deutschland schafft sich ab" German banker Thilo Sarrazin addresses the issue in Germany.
Austria: Gates of Vienna mentions an Viennese school with 98.5 percent foreigners in its classes.
The Netherlands: anecdotal evidence. A Turkish friend told me that the Turkish community in The Netherlands has become self-contained. He and his friends agree that they hardly meet Dutch people outside the workplace. "Dutch people do not want to know us anymore".
The setting up of a separate society does not only happen at the levels of daily social interaction the school-going anymore. Esther reports today Turkish doctors setting up clinics aimed at the market of Turks living in The Netherlands. The clinics see an opportunity to deliver their services in a way that suits Turks better, as communication with Dutch health care professionals is deemed problematic.
If society was really coming together as the Multiculturalists keep insisting, would there be so many examples of social separation accross Europe?
I repeat... assimilation is a crime against humanity [..] I explained over there (Germany) that they must differentiate very clearly between assimilation and integration.Multi-culturalist ideologues hold that society is coming together and that national, religious and ethnic boundaries are being erased. Indeed, some boundaries are fading. Differences between religious denominations fall away as religion is taken less serious by Europeans. Regions are losing their distinct flavour as regional dialects, customs and building styles are dissapearing and replaced by individualism and blander modernist styles. However it is becoming increasingly clear that the Multi-culturalist story is overlooking new and widening chasms causing sharply separated social groupings.
There is evidence that societies in Europe are not coming together, but falling apart. Children are not going to school together. The phenomenon of "black schools" has been a contentious issue in The Netherlands for years. Some examples across Europe:
Belgium: Esther reported that a Flemish school set up separate classes for immigrants and ethnic Flemish children in response to parent requests. Read: Belgium: Apartheid in Schools.
Danmark: in two other reports Esther showed Danish schools are splitting up classes as well and the issue is alive in Sweden too. Read Danish Apartheid 1 and Danish Apartheid 2.
Germany: in his recent book "Deutschland schafft sich ab" German banker Thilo Sarrazin addresses the issue in Germany.
Austria: Gates of Vienna mentions an Viennese school with 98.5 percent foreigners in its classes.
The Netherlands: anecdotal evidence. A Turkish friend told me that the Turkish community in The Netherlands has become self-contained. He and his friends agree that they hardly meet Dutch people outside the workplace. "Dutch people do not want to know us anymore".
The setting up of a separate society does not only happen at the levels of daily social interaction the school-going anymore. Esther reports today Turkish doctors setting up clinics aimed at the market of Turks living in The Netherlands. The clinics see an opportunity to deliver their services in a way that suits Turks better, as communication with Dutch health care professionals is deemed problematic.
If society was really coming together as the Multiculturalists keep insisting, would there be so many examples of social separation accross Europe?
Thursday, August 26, 2010
Potholes on the road to a new government
Trials and tribulations
Dutch politicians of the right-liberals (VVD), Christian-Democrats (CDA) and Freedom Party (PVV) have been on the road to forming a minority cabinet for the fourth week now. And if noises coming from behind the scenes are any indication it is not going well. On a TV news show Knevel en van den Brink the Chairman of the CDA, Mr. Bleker stated that the CDA - VVD coalition has to "bind" or "reconcile" all groups in society. This can be taken as an insistence to continue the policy of mulling over differences between (Muslim) immigrants and ethnic Dutch.
Wilders' reaction
PVV-leader Geert Wilders (Dutch) reacted with a personal attack on Mr. Bleker on Twitter (Dutch). Mr. Bleker is "whinger" according to him. What he means is that the CDA is committing the fault of the Dutch. Which is "to offer too little and to ask too much".
The next steps
The expectation is still that there will be a convenant for government (regeeraccoord) by next week. And if there is a convenant it will be put up for approval by a congress. And the congress is expected to approve the convenant.
The heart of the matter is the nature of Islam
Mr. Bleker and his CDA collegues are pretending that the sole problem could be the inclusiveness or exclusiveness of the ethnic Dutch. They are completely ignoring the point of view of Islam and its adherents. It is Islam which is excluding non-Muslims. It is Islam which states that all societies should be brought under Sharia law. And that all other points of view are wrong. Yes, the PVV policy is one of political exclusion of Islam as a political ideology. This is an essential exclusion if the nature of a Western society is to be maintained. The values of the West and Islam are mutually exclusive.
The use of the CDA
The sooner the membership and leadership of the CDA starts understanding this, the sooner they can do a service to Dutch society. And it is my impression that the rank and file understands this better than the leadership of the Christian-Democrats.
Dutch politicians of the right-liberals (VVD), Christian-Democrats (CDA) and Freedom Party (PVV) have been on the road to forming a minority cabinet for the fourth week now. And if noises coming from behind the scenes are any indication it is not going well. On a TV news show Knevel en van den Brink the Chairman of the CDA, Mr. Bleker stated that the CDA - VVD coalition has to "bind" or "reconcile" all groups in society. This can be taken as an insistence to continue the policy of mulling over differences between (Muslim) immigrants and ethnic Dutch.
Wilders' reaction
PVV-leader Geert Wilders (Dutch) reacted with a personal attack on Mr. Bleker on Twitter (Dutch). Mr. Bleker is "whinger" according to him. What he means is that the CDA is committing the fault of the Dutch. Which is "to offer too little and to ask too much".
The next steps
The expectation is still that there will be a convenant for government (regeeraccoord) by next week. And if there is a convenant it will be put up for approval by a congress. And the congress is expected to approve the convenant.
The heart of the matter is the nature of Islam
Mr. Bleker and his CDA collegues are pretending that the sole problem could be the inclusiveness or exclusiveness of the ethnic Dutch. They are completely ignoring the point of view of Islam and its adherents. It is Islam which is excluding non-Muslims. It is Islam which states that all societies should be brought under Sharia law. And that all other points of view are wrong. Yes, the PVV policy is one of political exclusion of Islam as a political ideology. This is an essential exclusion if the nature of a Western society is to be maintained. The values of the West and Islam are mutually exclusive.
The use of the CDA
The sooner the membership and leadership of the CDA starts understanding this, the sooner they can do a service to Dutch society. And it is my impression that the rank and file understands this better than the leadership of the Christian-Democrats.
Thursday, June 17, 2010
Muslim youth attack Jewish pupils
Jewish schools in Amsterdam
Before this blog featured an interview with Henri Markens, the former principal of a Jewish school in Amsterdam. Last week a Jewish school, Rosj Pina, saw its pupils harrassed (Dutch) by what was identified as youth of Muslim origin, during a public walking event. This has been happening since 2005. Schools are withdrawing from the public walking event because of this and many other incidents of disorderly behaviour by Amsterdam youth.
Before this blog featured an interview with Henri Markens, the former principal of a Jewish school in Amsterdam. Last week a Jewish school, Rosj Pina, saw its pupils harrassed (Dutch) by what was identified as youth of Muslim origin, during a public walking event. This has been happening since 2005. Schools are withdrawing from the public walking event because of this and many other incidents of disorderly behaviour by Amsterdam youth.
Monday, October 19, 2009
Jews in a Multi-cultural society
Jewish High School Principal
On the website of the Global Institute for Jewish Affairs I found an interview with Henri Markens, a Dutch Jew and community representative. Mr. Markens is also the former principal of a Jewish High School in Amsterdam-South, the area in The Netherlands with the highest concentration of Jews. He was the principal of the Joods Lyceum Maimonides until 2006. In the interview he speaks rather candidly of the issues confronting the Jewish community in The Netherlands these days.
On Muslim immigration:
* Article 23 of the Dutch Constitution
On the website of the Global Institute for Jewish Affairs I found an interview with Henri Markens, a Dutch Jew and community representative. Mr. Markens is also the former principal of a Jewish High School in Amsterdam-South, the area in The Netherlands with the highest concentration of Jews. He was the principal of the Joods Lyceum Maimonides until 2006. In the interview he speaks rather candidly of the issues confronting the Jewish community in The Netherlands these days.
On Muslim immigration:
The immigration of Muslims and the rise of Islam in the Netherlands have created problems for the Jewish community and will continue to do so. There are about one million Muslims in the Netherlands. Their influence on the political system is increasing. This cannot be positive for the Jews. The more power the Muslim community gains, the more it will weaken the Jewish community's relations with a number of ministries.On the encroachment on the constitutional right of citizens to have their confessional schools* by the state as a result of problems with Muslim integration:
The Jewish community faces increasing anti-Semitism. This has led to enhanced security measures. It also threatens to intensify attitudes based on fear.
I showed in particular to Verdonk, who was then integration minister, and Hirsi Ali that the Jewish community is fully integrated into Dutch society yet has still maintained its own identity. This contrasts with the integration problems of parts of the country's Muslim community.The future of the Jewish community in The Netherlands:
When Hirsi Ali visited the school, the main discussion took place with the students. She claimed that the school only has the right to exist if it accepts non-Jewish students as well. The pupils disagreed strongly with this. They criticized her approach and said that they have the right to their own school and to live in their own culture, as long as they do not offend anyone else.
One of the reasons I invited Hirsi Ali to the school was to show her that the problems she knows from the Muslim world do not occur among Jews. The Muslim population in the Netherlands is only partly integrated into Dutch society. Muslim youth are a source of trouble in many cities, especially Amsterdam and Rotterdam.
I do not exclude the possibility that in the future there will be political attempts to abolish religious schools, or at least put major limitations on them. I wanted to preempt that by showing politicians how our school functions within the Jewish community and Dutch society.
I am not optimistic about the future of Dutch society. In 2003 we had visits at our school by Rob Oudkerk, then alderman of education from the Labor Party, and Lodewijk Asscher, who is now deputy mayor of Amsterdam representing the same party but at that time was the party's faction chairman.On Mayor Cohen, the ethnically Jewish Mayor of Amsterdam:
We told them how our pupils experience the increasing anti-Semitism in Amsterdam. This trend still continues. In 2005, near the metro station in Amstelveen where many middle-class Jews live, one of our pupils was beaten up by three or four non-Western immigrants. He was wearing a Star of David. An incident of this kind at that place was unusual. It is much more common that such things happen in Amsterdam proper. The closer one comes to the center of the city, the more dangerous the situation becomes.
The phenomenon is more severe than the beating itself. I consider mental abuse to be more serious than physical harm. The consequences of the beating can be healed in an hour or at most a few months. The emotional abuse is frightening and one starts to behave accordingly. In the past a number of students wore kippot when traveling from school to the Amsterdam central station. Today this is no longer possible.
In 2003 our school celebrated its seventy-fifth year. The mayor of Amsterdam, Job Cohen, gave the opening speech at the festive ceremony. Although he is halachically Jewish, it was clear that he doesn't identify in any way with the Jewish community. He did not say ‘we as Jews' but ‘you, as a Jewish community.'The rest of the interview with Henri Markens on Jews in Holland
In that he differs greatly from one of his Jewish predecessors, Eduard van Thijn, who was mayor of Amsterdam from 1983 to 1994. On the occasion of a lecture on National Memorial Day on 4 May, he told of his experiences during World War II and in his school years. He mentioned that he had had little connection with Judaism, his parents having abandoned any Jewish practice and even concealed their identity as Jews. When he became mayor, however, he realized his true identity and started to take lessons in Judaism.
When Cohen visited our school we spoke about the problem of anti-Semitism, which preoccupies us. He knew that our pupils were beaten occasionally. I let pupils who had experienced this tell him about it. He gave the impression that he was not at all shocked. In this context he presents himself as a man with no emotions who says he is trying to keep a society together, when in reality it already has not been together for a long time.
This makes me think about the late Schelto Patijn, Cohen's predecessor, who was Amsterdam's mayor from 1994 to 2000. He was not only very pleasant but also showed a genuine interest in the Jewish community. As far as security was concerned he was always open to the specific needs of Jews as he knew that these were real. I once said to him-the only non-Jewish mayor Amsterdam has had for a long time-‘it almost seems that you are Jewish.'
His approach was totally different from Cohen's. In recent years there has been much more need for the security of Jewish buildings than in Patijn's time. As the mayor is head of the police, one must address him for extra protection. Cohen referred us to the education and interior ministries. They referred us back to the Amsterdam municipality. Ultimately both the municipality and the ministries helped us, but it took a very long time.
* Article 23 of the Dutch Constitution
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Sunday, October 18, 2009
Dutch Politicians seek PC input from universities
Facing immigration waves
Nations faced with a wave of immigration from a different civilization have to gain understanding of the invading civilization. European nations have been flooded with Muslims for the past 40 years. As a result there is a great need to inform policy makers, administrators and the public at large.
Lucis: a Dutch light on Islam
In response to this need a new institute for the study of Islam (Dutch) was opened in the University of Leiden, The Netherlands on October the 14th. One of the speakers invited was the Mayor of Amsterdam: Job Cohen (Labour Party). Mayor Cohen's city has a large Muslim population, you see.
Mayor Cohen's New Insights
At the opening of the institute Mayor Cohen charged that university experts (Dutch) do not manage to get the correct opinions accross to key audiences. In Mayor Cohen's view this is the cause of "politically incorrect" debating by Dutch politics and media. Mayor Cohen calls these views of Islam "views lacking in nuance". Job the Mayor called upon the fellows of the new institute to make sure that
The fact that Mayor Cohen was invited to the opening of the new Leiden University institute indicates that he was involved in securing its funding. The other speakers at the opening are all connected to the academe and there is the Dutch Secretary General of NATO Jaap de Hoop Scheffer. Mr. De Hoop Scheffer and Mr. Cohen are not noted for their knowledge of Islam. But they are known for their expertise at managing purse strings. And he who pays, calls the tune. In his speech Mayor Cohen made clear which two messages he wants to hear from the LUCIS institute. One: he wants LUCIS to tell HIM what ISLAM is really about. He wants the institute to answer questions such as:
What is the significance of Job the Mayor?
Well, Mr. Job Cohen is the mayor of the biggest city of The Netherlands. A city with nearly a hundred thousand Muslims. Right now his party, Labour, is doing exceedingly bad in the polls and at an all time low. In fact Labour is down to about a third of their usual votes and may occupy not even ten percent of the seats in Parliament if the polls are anything to go by.
Mr. Cohen's next step up
Mr. Job Cohen is an unusually gifted administrator and there are many people in the Labour party who want him to join the leadership of Labour at the national level. He could even be the new leader of Labour in the next round of elections. No matter what the exact distribution of seats is going to be, all mayor political parties will be culled and Labour will be a necessary part of any broad, multi-party coalition which will be formed. This three- or four-party coalition will NOT include Geert Wilder's Freedom Party (PVV) and will try to implement the usual Multi-Cultural policies that the political class has managed to foist on the Dutch public for the past 40 years.
How does LUCIS fit in all this?
And then LUCIS, the new Ministry of Truth, will come mighty handy to Mr. Cohen and his political cronies in The Netherlands and in NATO.
Nations faced with a wave of immigration from a different civilization have to gain understanding of the invading civilization. European nations have been flooded with Muslims for the past 40 years. As a result there is a great need to inform policy makers, administrators and the public at large.
Lucis: a Dutch light on Islam
In response to this need a new institute for the study of Islam (Dutch) was opened in the University of Leiden, The Netherlands on October the 14th. One of the speakers invited was the Mayor of Amsterdam: Job Cohen (Labour Party). Mayor Cohen's city has a large Muslim population, you see.
Mayor Cohen's New Insights
At the opening of the institute Mayor Cohen charged that university experts (Dutch) do not manage to get the correct opinions accross to key audiences. In Mayor Cohen's view this is the cause of "politically incorrect" debating by Dutch politics and media. Mayor Cohen calls these views of Islam "views lacking in nuance". Job the Mayor called upon the fellows of the new institute to make sure that
their scientific knowledge and insights will not remain enclosed by the wall around the academic world. Universities have a societal responsability. Islam is more than a religion. It is a political factor and a social, cultural and historical phenomenon. There is so much to say about this Islam that scientific reflections may be of help. Reflections on Islam encompass the Muslim world and the everyday world which Muslims inhabit. Questions that ought to be answered are: is Islam a religion of violence? Is the Netherlands Islamizing? Is Islam be unreformable and therefore backward? Can Islam live together with Western democracy and the rule of law?Mayor Cohen's Shtick
all attention in debating Islam in The Netherlands goes to "radical" Islam, although radical Islam is only a minor part of the totality of that religion. Moreover the debate is polluted with matters such as crime and anti-social behaviour. Because Dutchmen are not ridding themselves of this one-sided view the average Muslim is left in the cold.What is the significance of Cohen's presence at LUCIS?
The fact that Mayor Cohen was invited to the opening of the new Leiden University institute indicates that he was involved in securing its funding. The other speakers at the opening are all connected to the academe and there is the Dutch Secretary General of NATO Jaap de Hoop Scheffer. Mr. De Hoop Scheffer and Mr. Cohen are not noted for their knowledge of Islam. But they are known for their expertise at managing purse strings. And he who pays, calls the tune. In his speech Mayor Cohen made clear which two messages he wants to hear from the LUCIS institute. One: he wants LUCIS to tell HIM what ISLAM is really about. He wants the institute to answer questions such as:
"is Islam a religion of violence?"This is a remarkable question for someone of Job Cohen's convictions. It may be an indication that Mr. Cohen is starting to doubt the multi-cultural creed. But to the general public Mr. Job Cohen wants another tune played. He is clearly instructing LUCIS to influence the media and the debate in such a way that the tendency of
... Dutchmen ... not ridding themselves of this one-sided view ...is countered. Thus LUCIS is the latest effort to fool the Dutch public while handing the class of political experts and managers real insights.
What is the significance of Job the Mayor?
Well, Mr. Job Cohen is the mayor of the biggest city of The Netherlands. A city with nearly a hundred thousand Muslims. Right now his party, Labour, is doing exceedingly bad in the polls and at an all time low. In fact Labour is down to about a third of their usual votes and may occupy not even ten percent of the seats in Parliament if the polls are anything to go by.
Mr. Cohen's next step up
Mr. Job Cohen is an unusually gifted administrator and there are many people in the Labour party who want him to join the leadership of Labour at the national level. He could even be the new leader of Labour in the next round of elections. No matter what the exact distribution of seats is going to be, all mayor political parties will be culled and Labour will be a necessary part of any broad, multi-party coalition which will be formed. This three- or four-party coalition will NOT include Geert Wilder's Freedom Party (PVV) and will try to implement the usual Multi-Cultural policies that the political class has managed to foist on the Dutch public for the past 40 years.
How does LUCIS fit in all this?
And then LUCIS, the new Ministry of Truth, will come mighty handy to Mr. Cohen and his political cronies in The Netherlands and in NATO.
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Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Moroccans want to fight Moroccan crime
A group of ethnic Morroccans in The Netherlands is self organizing. It is their goal to counter the stupendous Moroccan crime rate.
Esther at IslaminEurope has the News.
Snouck's Commentary: This is another proof of the fact that those who insist that the people who point out that crime has a color are in the wrong.
Esther at IslaminEurope has the News.
Snouck's Commentary: This is another proof of the fact that those who insist that the people who point out that crime has a color are in the wrong.
Friday, October 09, 2009
Ethnic Dutch and Muslim youth polarizing
Esther at the IslaminEurope - News blog has written an abstract of a internet survey commissioned by a Dutch anti-terror bureaucracy (NBTc) on radicalisation of Muslim youth and ethnic Dutch youth. You can read the article on group radicalisation here.
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Terrorism,
The Netherlands
Thursday, August 06, 2009
Wolf in wolfs clothing
Labour's tricky predicament
In the running up to the 2006 municipal elections, Mr. Wouter Bos, the Labour party leader said that Labour (PvdA) would see a lot of trouble with immigrant politicians in the local councils as they would bring elements into Labour whose interests diverged from the interests of the Labour Party.
Mr. Bos' perceptive remark would prove prophetic. The question is what this phenomenon says about the presence of Muslims in The Netherlands and other Muslims societies.
One of the politicians that fits the bill of Wouter Bos' remark is the subject of this article.
The usual suspects
Bouchra Ismaili, a Rotterdam former Labour municipal politician, is featuring in the news once more. In the middle of January 2008 she achieved notoriety by:
1. signing a petition of a hardline Islamic group: Hizb-ut-Tahir
2. writing an e-mail to a Dutchman with a rather hostile content:
Please find a full translation of Mrs. Bouchra's mail at Esther's news site Islamineurope.blogspot.com.
The affair made her position as a Labour politician untenable.
The unmasked Muslim
Mrs. Bouchra is now campaigning on behalf on the Dutch Muslim Party (NMP). The affair has only made her star shine more brightly to Muslims of Rotterdam. She is expected to pull in 2-3 council seats in the Rotterdam Council.
The interests of Dutch people and the expressed wishes of Muslims
The Hizb-ut-Tahrir program that Mrs. Bouchra support goes very strongly against the interests of the ethically Dutch people of Rotterdam. If this only goads Rotterdam's Muslims in supporting Mrs. Bouchra this shows that the presence of Muslims in Rotterdam and other parts of Europe hurts the interests of the Westerners amongst whom they settle. Therefore there ought to be a moratorium on all Muslim immigration to The Netherlands.
In the running up to the 2006 municipal elections, Mr. Wouter Bos, the Labour party leader said that Labour (PvdA) would see a lot of trouble with immigrant politicians in the local councils as they would bring elements into Labour whose interests diverged from the interests of the Labour Party.
Mr. Bos' perceptive remark would prove prophetic. The question is what this phenomenon says about the presence of Muslims in The Netherlands and other Muslims societies.
One of the politicians that fits the bill of Wouter Bos' remark is the subject of this article.
The usual suspects
Bouchra Ismaili, a Rotterdam former Labour municipal politician, is featuring in the news once more. In the middle of January 2008 she achieved notoriety by:
1. signing a petition of a hardline Islamic group: Hizb-ut-Tahir
2. writing an e-mail to a Dutchman with a rather hostile content:
You are the immigrant here!!!! With Allah on my side i fear nothing and nobody.Indeed, it is a good thing she has no fear.
Please find a full translation of Mrs. Bouchra's mail at Esther's news site Islamineurope.blogspot.com.
The affair made her position as a Labour politician untenable.
The unmasked Muslim
Mrs. Bouchra is now campaigning on behalf on the Dutch Muslim Party (NMP). The affair has only made her star shine more brightly to Muslims of Rotterdam. She is expected to pull in 2-3 council seats in the Rotterdam Council.
The interests of Dutch people and the expressed wishes of Muslims
The Hizb-ut-Tahrir program that Mrs. Bouchra support goes very strongly against the interests of the ethically Dutch people of Rotterdam. If this only goads Rotterdam's Muslims in supporting Mrs. Bouchra this shows that the presence of Muslims in Rotterdam and other parts of Europe hurts the interests of the Westerners amongst whom they settle. Therefore there ought to be a moratorium on all Muslim immigration to The Netherlands.
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Saturday, July 25, 2009
Gay pride Amsterdam runs the gauntlet again
Keeping the world save and gay
The Amsterdam City Marketeers are spending a considerable budget to woo US gays. It is their intent to picture the city as a haven for liberalism and permissiveness. And indeed Amsterdam has a long standing tradition of being relatively open.
Read the blurb or check find the below sample of the creativity of the Amsterdam Marketeers:

Do you feel the soft glow inside?
Dark forces are gathering
But alas. Dark forces are gathering against the light of gayness. For years Gay events have been marred by real hatred of gays. Amsterdam Gays and their visiting friends are exposed to evil gaybashing.
White males are the carriers of original sin in Liberal theology. For Liberals women and minorities have victim status. Victim status is the weapon of choice to clobber white males with. Victim status groups are "protected classes" under the rule of Liberalism and they are the core adherents.
Victim fight
But what if victims attack victims? What is Liberalism, the guiding principle of todays Western society, to say when this happens?
I ask this because the gaybashers scouring Amsterdam generally belong to the Muslim minority, which is approximately 25 percent of the population of Amsterdam and growing.
What happened was: one of the organizers of the Gay Pride, Mr. Hugo Braakhuis, was beaten up at a popular nightlife venue in the centre of our fair city, called Rembrandsplein. This happened when Mr. Braakhuis was taking leave of a friend at four in the morning. The men had been kissing. Mr. Braakhuis' friend received injuries and both were called "dirty fag" and worse.
I wrote similare articles
in 2007 Liberalism bites its own behind and
in 2006 Gays betrayed by Liberalism.
The Amsterdam respons
The respons of the Amsterdam City Council to these events has been to install CCTV security cameras at gay venues and stepping up police patrolling in these areas.
But these measure cannot stop the gay bashing, nor the publicity about the gay bashing. At some point it will become more and more known that Amsterdam is a dangerous place for gays and the city will lose its appeal to gay tourists.
At this point the City can always start marketing the city to masochist tourists. Amsterdam, the city were you can be beaten up for free. Its better than bull running in Pamplona!
Multiculturalism, the belief that all cultures are compatible with Western culture always had at its core a strong element of masochism. However, there are indications that Dutch gays are in doubt. Polls by Gay Magazine "De Gaykrant" (Dutch) show that a quarter of Dutch gays support the Freedom Party.
And that is the best description of Liberalism in Multicultural Holland. It is being doubted by its core adherents.
The Amsterdam City Marketeers are spending a considerable budget to woo US gays. It is their intent to picture the city as a haven for liberalism and permissiveness. And indeed Amsterdam has a long standing tradition of being relatively open.
Read the blurb or check find the below sample of the creativity of the Amsterdam Marketeers:

Do you feel the soft glow inside?
Dark forces are gathering
But alas. Dark forces are gathering against the light of gayness. For years Gay events have been marred by real hatred of gays. Amsterdam Gays and their visiting friends are exposed to evil gaybashing.
White males are the carriers of original sin in Liberal theology. For Liberals women and minorities have victim status. Victim status is the weapon of choice to clobber white males with. Victim status groups are "protected classes" under the rule of Liberalism and they are the core adherents.
Victim fight
But what if victims attack victims? What is Liberalism, the guiding principle of todays Western society, to say when this happens?
I ask this because the gaybashers scouring Amsterdam generally belong to the Muslim minority, which is approximately 25 percent of the population of Amsterdam and growing.
What happened was: one of the organizers of the Gay Pride, Mr. Hugo Braakhuis, was beaten up at a popular nightlife venue in the centre of our fair city, called Rembrandsplein. This happened when Mr. Braakhuis was taking leave of a friend at four in the morning. The men had been kissing. Mr. Braakhuis' friend received injuries and both were called "dirty fag" and worse.
I wrote similare articles
in 2007 Liberalism bites its own behind and
in 2006 Gays betrayed by Liberalism.
The Amsterdam respons
The respons of the Amsterdam City Council to these events has been to install CCTV security cameras at gay venues and stepping up police patrolling in these areas.
But these measure cannot stop the gay bashing, nor the publicity about the gay bashing. At some point it will become more and more known that Amsterdam is a dangerous place for gays and the city will lose its appeal to gay tourists.
At this point the City can always start marketing the city to masochist tourists. Amsterdam, the city were you can be beaten up for free. Its better than bull running in Pamplona!
Multiculturalism, the belief that all cultures are compatible with Western culture always had at its core a strong element of masochism. However, there are indications that Dutch gays are in doubt. Polls by Gay Magazine "De Gaykrant" (Dutch) show that a quarter of Dutch gays support the Freedom Party.
And that is the best description of Liberalism in Multicultural Holland. It is being doubted by its core adherents.
Sunday, June 07, 2009
Expelling criminal foreigners and public charges
Incredibly violent criminal foreigners
In the middle of April I blogged on the case of two Muslim brothers from Amsterdam-West. They had criminal records of more than 300 items. And no Dutch nationality. And had even forgotten to renew their permit to stay. In a sane world it would be obvious: expell the brothers.
Appeal, appeal!
However we live in a world of crazy ideologues. One of the brother immediately succesfully appealled the decision by the Immigration Service (IND). The other brother did the same and yesterday a judge (Dutch) decided in his favour. He is not yet saved though. He will get an extension of his stay and his permit will be reconsidered.
What does this mean?
Obviously this is nuts. They are public charges. These chaps are very violent. They have no conideration for the lives and property of other citizens. They are undisirables. They do not have Dutch nationality. So if the judge were to take into acoount the interests of Dutch citizens and the obvious fact that the brothers consider other citizens rights as non-existent it would be best to protect society by expelling the brothers.
And yet there is light
Realize that the police is throwing its weight behind having these criminals removed, in ADDITION to the efforts by the Immigration Service. The civil servants of the Immigration Service have often shown their willingness to revoke the permits of immigrants on grounds of principle. In fact one of the parlementarians of the Freedom Party (PVV), Sietze Fritsma, is originally from the Immigration Service and he was assisted by his former collegues in opposing plans by the government to grant "refugees" amnesty. That the Amsterdam police has now joined the Immigration Service shows that there is support amongst the Dutch Civil Service for the plans of the Freedom Party.
The perspective
If the Freedom Party will continue to grow and become part of a government coalition it may be possible to get its program passed. A moratorium on immigration and the expelling of foreign criminals. The Immigration Service already seems to be on their side and the police is coming over. Geert Wilders' plans are looking more and more realistic.
In the middle of April I blogged on the case of two Muslim brothers from Amsterdam-West. They had criminal records of more than 300 items. And no Dutch nationality. And had even forgotten to renew their permit to stay. In a sane world it would be obvious: expell the brothers.
Appeal, appeal!
However we live in a world of crazy ideologues. One of the brother immediately succesfully appealled the decision by the Immigration Service (IND). The other brother did the same and yesterday a judge (Dutch) decided in his favour. He is not yet saved though. He will get an extension of his stay and his permit will be reconsidered.
What does this mean?
Obviously this is nuts. They are public charges. These chaps are very violent. They have no conideration for the lives and property of other citizens. They are undisirables. They do not have Dutch nationality. So if the judge were to take into acoount the interests of Dutch citizens and the obvious fact that the brothers consider other citizens rights as non-existent it would be best to protect society by expelling the brothers.
And yet there is light
Realize that the police is throwing its weight behind having these criminals removed, in ADDITION to the efforts by the Immigration Service. The civil servants of the Immigration Service have often shown their willingness to revoke the permits of immigrants on grounds of principle. In fact one of the parlementarians of the Freedom Party (PVV), Sietze Fritsma, is originally from the Immigration Service and he was assisted by his former collegues in opposing plans by the government to grant "refugees" amnesty. That the Amsterdam police has now joined the Immigration Service shows that there is support amongst the Dutch Civil Service for the plans of the Freedom Party.
The perspective
If the Freedom Party will continue to grow and become part of a government coalition it may be possible to get its program passed. A moratorium on immigration and the expelling of foreign criminals. The Immigration Service already seems to be on their side and the police is coming over. Geert Wilders' plans are looking more and more realistic.
Labels:
civil servants,
Crime,
Islam,
Multicultural society,
The color of crime
Thursday, June 04, 2009
Rotterdam, The Color of Crime
Non-discrimination as the highest principle
There is a remarkable correlation between crime and ethnic the origin of criminals. It is necessary for the elites of Western societies to see this and to steer society in a direction that strengthens society, rather than weakening it. However Liberalism is the orthodoxy of the West. According to Traditionalist Conservative Laurence Auster the highest principle of Liberalism is the principle of non-discrimination.
This principle non-discrimination inhibits researchers from being able to see the most obvious patterns.
The color of crime in Rotterdam
Dutch Criminologist Frank Bovenkerk yesterday published figures on Crime and Ethnicity for Rotterdam (Dutch). Amongst other things Mr. Frank Bovenkerk found that:
55 percent of Rotterdam males between 18 and 24 years of Moroccan origin (Dutch) was at one or more times suspect of a crime. Caribbean Black have 40 percent and Turks 36 percent. Ethnic Dutch of the same age group have a whopping 18 percent quote.
The scope of the snapshot
Professor Bovenkerk notes that these figures are conservative as they are annual 2007 figures. Only Rotterdam does statistics in this way. Mr. Bovenkerk combined figuers from the Central Statistical Service (CBS) with police data in order map suspects from the first and second generation of immigrants. Further data including ethnicity from other social services are added.
Repeat offenders
According to the professor 90 percent of the Moroccan criminals is a repeat offender. For ethnic Dutch this is 60 percent. It is expected that a similar pattern is found in other major Dutch cities.
Persistent Liberalism syndrome
In an interview with `De Volkskrant` Professor Bovenkerk astoundingly insist there is no connection between crime and ethnic origin of criminals. He is against seeing crime as caused by ethnic origin and uses the word `stereotyping` to tar this approach. Instead he sees a correlation betweeen social organisation and crime. The Turkish ethnic group has the strongest social cohesion and the lowest crime figures. Apart from the Ethnic Dutch.
Non-discrimination rules supreme
And Professor Bovenkerk goes further. He is against a law that would gather add data on ethnicity in the crime stats. `In trying criminals according to the penal code the principle of equality should be paramount` says the Professor who is leaving the Utrecht University as a Professor of Criminology.
A May 2009 article on the Color of Crime.
Labels:
Caribbean,
Crime,
Islam,
Rotterdam,
The color of crime
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Islam in Europe: Mosque Architecture
Intentions set in stone
At the moment around 100 mosques are built in Europe every year. The mosque building accomodates the increasing feeling of religiousity amongst the Muslim communities in European nations. Descendants of immigrants from Islamic societies are setting themselves apart from surrounding society, by stressing differences in dress and appearance, diet, and by building centres of worship, where their teachings are hammered into the congegration.
Spare no Expense
In order to give this trend a material expression Muslim communities are prepared to reach deep in their collective pockets. If an average mosque costs 500.000 Euros, the Umma invests 50 million Euros annually in Mosque building.
European mosques have a style of their own
Architects are developing a more European style of mosque architecture argues German architect Christian Welzbacher in his book Euro-Islam Architecture.
At the moment around 100 mosques are built in Europe every year. The mosque building accomodates the increasing feeling of religiousity amongst the Muslim communities in European nations. Descendants of immigrants from Islamic societies are setting themselves apart from surrounding society, by stressing differences in dress and appearance, diet, and by building centres of worship, where their teachings are hammered into the congegration.
Spare no Expense
In order to give this trend a material expression Muslim communities are prepared to reach deep in their collective pockets. If an average mosque costs 500.000 Euros, the Umma invests 50 million Euros annually in Mosque building.
European mosques have a style of their own
Architects are developing a more European style of mosque architecture argues German architect Christian Welzbacher in his book Euro-Islam Architecture.
Monday, May 04, 2009
The Color of Crime in Holland: Criminals on the loose
Violent crime in Western society has a particular face
Mugshots on Dutch website "Police is looking for.." today on May the Fourth. All the faces on the mugshots are foreigners, mostly immigrants from North Africa and the Caribbean.
God knows how much Evil these people committed between them. If these people had not been allowed into the country, The Netherlands would be a safer place. There would be less fear between people. The Netherlands would be a high trust society like it was 20 years ago.
Commemorate those who died
Today is the Day that the Dutch commemorate those who died under German (and Japanese) occupation. From a day to remember the fighters, soldiers and officers of Dutch Army and nnational recistance, May the Fourth has been turned into a day of high minded declarations against Fascism and Racism by the "Post-war resistance". In effect it has become a day against National Pride.
The New Occupation
But the truth is that we are occupied again. Not by a army under a single unified command, but by a host of settlers to whom the lives and property of ethnic Dutchmen means nothing.
Our Call
This time the British and Americans will not come to our aid. We have to do it ourselves.
Mugshots on Dutch website "Police is looking for.." today on May the Fourth. All the faces on the mugshots are foreigners, mostly immigrants from North Africa and the Caribbean.
God knows how much Evil these people committed between them. If these people had not been allowed into the country, The Netherlands would be a safer place. There would be less fear between people. The Netherlands would be a high trust society like it was 20 years ago.
Commemorate those who died
Today is the Day that the Dutch commemorate those who died under German (and Japanese) occupation. From a day to remember the fighters, soldiers and officers of Dutch Army and nnational recistance, May the Fourth has been turned into a day of high minded declarations against Fascism and Racism by the "Post-war resistance". In effect it has become a day against National Pride.
The New Occupation
But the truth is that we are occupied again. Not by a army under a single unified command, but by a host of settlers to whom the lives and property of ethnic Dutchmen means nothing.
Our Call
This time the British and Americans will not come to our aid. We have to do it ourselves.
Labels:
Caribbean,
Crime,
immigrants,
Islam,
The color of crime
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Dutch Army Imam 2
The Imam who is to be appointed as an Army Imam will be äppointed despite objection of Parliamentarian opposition. According to a letter written by Deputy Defense Minister Jack de Vries this is what will happen. He thinks the Imam's opposition to the presence of Dutch troops in a Muslims land as not relevant.
Parliament will vote on the matter today. Opposition politicians of the Freedom Party (PVV), Christian Democrats (CDA) and the Christian Orthodox SGP are expected to contest the decision. They hold 74 seats in the 150 seat Parliament.
Readers can find earlier articles on Islam in the Dutch Army below: Imams in Dutch Army, Dutch Army permits oath on Allah, Dutch Army hates Multiculturalism and Jihadists in the Dutch Army.
Parliament will vote on the matter today. Opposition politicians of the Freedom Party (PVV), Christian Democrats (CDA) and the Christian Orthodox SGP are expected to contest the decision. They hold 74 seats in the 150 seat Parliament.
Readers can find earlier articles on Islam in the Dutch Army below: Imams in Dutch Army, Dutch Army permits oath on Allah, Dutch Army hates Multiculturalism and Jihadists in the Dutch Army.
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
Dutch High Court slams prosecution of Islam-basher
Dutch Islam basher prosecuted for hate crime
A Dutch citizen who put up a poster stating "stop the Islam cancer growth" (Dutch) was prosecuted after the public prosecutor received complaints from aggrieved citizens in 2004.
Today the Dutch High Court, the highest Court of Justice in the land, issued the verdict that the citizen was not culpable. The Court motivated its decision by stating that although the law objects to insulting a religious group, it does not object to insulting religious belief. This new jurisprudence of article 137c of the Dutch Penal Code (Dutch) has bearing on the case of Geert Wilders who is being prosecuted for fiercely criticizing Islamic belief and Islamic Scripture.
So it is possible to say "Islam is bad", but saying "Muslims are bad" still gets one in trouble legally.
The bearing of this verdict on the Wilders Case
This verdict of the High Court makes it less likely that Geert Wilders will in fact be prosecuted and convicted under Hate Crime Legislation as demanded by the Amsterdam Court of Appeal.
Such a shame. The Freedom Party was making hay over the prosecution of its leader Geert Wilders. Opinion polls showed that the Freedom Party (PVV) had become the biggest party in The Netherlands if election had been held recently.
A Dutch citizen who put up a poster stating "stop the Islam cancer growth" (Dutch) was prosecuted after the public prosecutor received complaints from aggrieved citizens in 2004.
Today the Dutch High Court, the highest Court of Justice in the land, issued the verdict that the citizen was not culpable. The Court motivated its decision by stating that although the law objects to insulting a religious group, it does not object to insulting religious belief. This new jurisprudence of article 137c of the Dutch Penal Code (Dutch) has bearing on the case of Geert Wilders who is being prosecuted for fiercely criticizing Islamic belief and Islamic Scripture.
So it is possible to say "Islam is bad", but saying "Muslims are bad" still gets one in trouble legally.
The bearing of this verdict on the Wilders Case
This verdict of the High Court makes it less likely that Geert Wilders will in fact be prosecuted and convicted under Hate Crime Legislation as demanded by the Amsterdam Court of Appeal.
Such a shame. The Freedom Party was making hay over the prosecution of its leader Geert Wilders. Opinion polls showed that the Freedom Party (PVV) had become the biggest party in The Netherlands if election had been held recently.
Labels:
Freedom of Speech,
Geert Wilders,
Islam,
The Netherlands
Friday, February 06, 2009
Wilders' appeal without merit?
Penal Code authorities dismiss merit of Wilders' appeal
Two Dutch Penal Code full professors argue that the recent attempt by Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders (Dutch) to have the prosecution against him cancelled, will fail.
Full professors Ybo Buruma and Gerard Mols argue that Geert Wilders' "appeal in the interest of the law" has no merit.
Mr. Buruma and Mr. Mols argue that an "appeal in the interest of the law" can be made to maintain the unity of the law. And usually there is no interested party in such cases. Mr. Bram Moszkowicz who is now appealing as Geert Wilders' laywer has succesfully made a similar appeal on behalf of Desi Bouterse a Surinamese former dictator responsable for murdering dissidents in the former Dutch colony. In that case the defendant wás an interested party. But it was argued that a Dutch Court has no jurisdiction over crime cases that happened abroad. The "appeal in the interest of the law" was successful in tearing up the case against the Surinamese dictator.
This will not stand in the Wilders case though. Wilders critizised Islam in The Netherlands. Dutch Courts of course have jurisdiction on Dutch territory. Furthermore there is no danger against the unity of the law, as Wilders may appeal to a verdict to the High Court in due course.
Defense of the Appeal of Mr. Wilders
It would seem that Mr. Moszkowicz argues that the appeal wíll stand, as he states that it is a "miscarriage of justice" and "a highly particular and fundamental matter, namely free speech".
It seems that Mr. Moszkowicz does not address the criticism of Professors Ybo Buruma and Gerard Mols that this matter does not constitute a threat against the unity of law.
On the other hand "appeal in the interest of the law" can also be initiated for issues that are described as "current". The "Procureur-Generaal" is the official of the High Court who has to judge whether he will grant the appeal "in the interest of the law". Whether he will do so remains to be seen.
Possible political interference in the case in favour of Wilders'?
It appears to me that the "Procureur-Generaal" will indeed judge Mr. Moszkowicz' appeal to have enough merit. Especially as political power and the power of the Judiciary mesh into one at this level. The political establishment has to compete for votes with Geert Wilders and with the prosecution against Wilders his electoral appeal has increased. The Amsterdam Court of Appeal has framed the Judicial and Political establishment in a situation where they look like a Goliath crushing a hapless Geert Wilders in the role of David.
The advantage here is on the side of David and not on the side of Goliath as history shows time and time again. The establishment will lose credibility and Geert Wilders stands to gain hugely.
Why does Geert Wilders do this?
This is why I do not fully understand Geert Wilders' decision to appeal against his prosecutions. It seems a political miscalculation. Possibly borne from Geert Wilders' strong sense of Justice or otherwise from a lack of funds to be able to bear the legal costs of a drawn out legal battle. This legal battle is estimated to take two years.
Two Dutch Penal Code full professors argue that the recent attempt by Freedom Party leader Geert Wilders (Dutch) to have the prosecution against him cancelled, will fail.
Full professors Ybo Buruma and Gerard Mols argue that Geert Wilders' "appeal in the interest of the law" has no merit.
Mr. Buruma and Mr. Mols argue that an "appeal in the interest of the law" can be made to maintain the unity of the law. And usually there is no interested party in such cases. Mr. Bram Moszkowicz who is now appealing as Geert Wilders' laywer has succesfully made a similar appeal on behalf of Desi Bouterse a Surinamese former dictator responsable for murdering dissidents in the former Dutch colony. In that case the defendant wás an interested party. But it was argued that a Dutch Court has no jurisdiction over crime cases that happened abroad. The "appeal in the interest of the law" was successful in tearing up the case against the Surinamese dictator.
This will not stand in the Wilders case though. Wilders critizised Islam in The Netherlands. Dutch Courts of course have jurisdiction on Dutch territory. Furthermore there is no danger against the unity of the law, as Wilders may appeal to a verdict to the High Court in due course.
Defense of the Appeal of Mr. Wilders
It would seem that Mr. Moszkowicz argues that the appeal wíll stand, as he states that it is a "miscarriage of justice" and "a highly particular and fundamental matter, namely free speech".
It seems that Mr. Moszkowicz does not address the criticism of Professors Ybo Buruma and Gerard Mols that this matter does not constitute a threat against the unity of law.
On the other hand "appeal in the interest of the law" can also be initiated for issues that are described as "current". The "Procureur-Generaal" is the official of the High Court who has to judge whether he will grant the appeal "in the interest of the law". Whether he will do so remains to be seen.
Possible political interference in the case in favour of Wilders'?
It appears to me that the "Procureur-Generaal" will indeed judge Mr. Moszkowicz' appeal to have enough merit. Especially as political power and the power of the Judiciary mesh into one at this level. The political establishment has to compete for votes with Geert Wilders and with the prosecution against Wilders his electoral appeal has increased. The Amsterdam Court of Appeal has framed the Judicial and Political establishment in a situation where they look like a Goliath crushing a hapless Geert Wilders in the role of David.
The advantage here is on the side of David and not on the side of Goliath as history shows time and time again. The establishment will lose credibility and Geert Wilders stands to gain hugely.
Why does Geert Wilders do this?
This is why I do not fully understand Geert Wilders' decision to appeal against his prosecutions. It seems a political miscalculation. Possibly borne from Geert Wilders' strong sense of Justice or otherwise from a lack of funds to be able to bear the legal costs of a drawn out legal battle. This legal battle is estimated to take two years.
Labels:
Fitna,
Freedom of Speech,
Geert Wilders,
Hate Speech,
Islam,
The Netherlands
Tuesday, February 03, 2009
Prophet Mohammed Rasul - Land of Naive fools
The text of "Land of Naive fools" by Mohammed Rasul in English
Find the full text of the "land of naive fools" by Mohammed Rasul in English here.
Find the full text of the "land of naive fools" by Mohammed Rasul in English here.
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