Friday, January 20, 2006

The BNP is a National Socialist party says a reader

Islamophobe:
Snouck - you might not know this but the BNP are a national socialist party and notoriously anti-semitic. The first thing they would do if they ever got into power would be to abolish free speech.
Interesting comment Islamophobe and one I was hoping to provoke. Naturally when one looks at the Nationalist Right in the West, one is always wary, expecting to find Homophobia, Anti-Christianity, Anti-Semitism. Amongst those attracted to the position of the pro-ethnic Euro political parties, one can only expect people with a higher than average hostility to other ethnicities, which may translate in positions of seeing a conspiring bunch of Jews under every stone and behind every tree.

Therefore your suspicion of the BNP and Front National is warranted and I have shared the same suspicion. I was also convinced that Dutch nationalist parties such as the Centrum Democraten and CP '86 were sympathisers of National Socialism. During the 90ies therefore I was never interested in these Nationalist movements because the press confirmed my suspicions. However during the 2001-2002 Fortuyn revolution IT savvy supporters of Fortuyn set up pro-Fortuyn forums such as the now defunct www.pimfortuyndiscussie.nl where attacks in the media (De Linkse Kerk - The Church of the Left) would be analysed. One of the shocking things that the supporters of Fortuyn helped me understand is how the Church of the Left - the media routinely carries out these smear campaigns against those who try to break the PC consensus. Because the party programs of the Dutch Nationalist Centrum Democraten were not National Socialist or Fascist at all nor were the publications or the utterances of the leaders of these parties. However the press constantly tries to connect European Nationalists with National-Socialism and genocidal anti-semitism. I did not read the threat on nationalist splinter CP'86, but I closely followed the explanations of the messages in the press about the Centrum Democrats and the violent campaign by government subsidised Leftist groups against the Centrum Democrats. I was shocked when I found out how I had been misled by newspapers and journalists that I had mistakenly trusted. I was and perhaps am cocky and even arrogant about my media savvyness because they had pulled the wool over my eyes.

Islamophobe, I saw on your blog that you are aware of the slanted representation of the news on the BBC in their reports on Israel. The sad news is that the BBC is about as thrustworthy as good old Pravda concerning their coverage of the BNP.

Although the antecedents of the BNP are murky the party has turned around and distanced itself from Fascism, Nazism and Anti-Semitism. The party is now genuinly pro-democratic and takes a stance which is just pro-ethnic British. Off course there may still be members of the BNP who are Anti-Semitic and who use Jewish conspiracy theories for all instances where Europeans shoot or have shot themselves in the foot, just as there are Jews who blame everything that goes wrong with Jews on hatefull Goyim. However the leadership is purged of such people. If you visit the BNP website and you read their messages for months you will never find any pro-Nazi views nor any offensive remarks on Jews. None. Zero. En klum, shun-dabar. As far as this goes Israeli Jews are often sharper and more savvy in distinguishing between alleged anti-Semitism and the genuine article, also because most Israelis are themselves genuine Nationalists, so they recognize the true thing when they meet it. To give you a good Jewish source on the BNP, try Frontpagemag contributor Roger Locke, who wrote on the BNP:

"1. The BNP has now evolved to the point where it doesn't have any significant antagonism towards Jews as such, or towards Israel. Unlike the left, it has no interest in Palestinians or the larger Arab cause, and it takes the Islamic threat seriously. It has zero inclination to actively side against Israel, simply because it really wants to have nothing to do with the Middle East at all. Griffin said:

"As nationalists, our duty is to work to build a better country for our own people, not to worry about or interfere in the affairs of others. The Middle East is simply not our problem or our business." "

AND

On the specific question of anti-Semitism, Griffin said this:

"Look -- we have very serious enemies in this country, both at home and abroad. If you're going to go with that old [National Front] nonsense of Jews under every bed and responsible for all the ills of the world, then you're going to have a crazy strategic vision of who you're fighting and what to do about it. The idea that 'the Jew is the enemy' is simply over for us now, and not a moment too soon, because now we can get on with the real struggles."

He qualified this by saying:

"We insist on the right to criticize individual Jews who do wrong or Jewish groups which use the influence and power that all organized and motivated groups have to lobby, for example, for British foreign policy to take directions at odds with our national interest. But there is a world of difference between such criticism and the old fantasies about Learned Elders of Zion controlling the world, and the rabid anti-Semitism that they reflect and incite." "

These quotes from Robert Locke's interview should point my readers in the right direction. Please read the whole interview, it is very instructive. Do not take my or Robert Locke's word for it. If you are British visit the BNP website at http://www.bnp.org.uk regularly and check what they put up there. Follow them for a few months and compare the reporting in the Main Stream Media. Then come to your own conclusions.

Further on Islamophobe says:

"so , the comparision to Vlams Blok(now Vlams Belang) is unfair, considering that Vlaams Belang is pro-Israel."

Snouck says: Vlaams Belang is pro-Israel, just like the Danske Folkeparti. The BNP is neutral towards Israel. Indeed there is a difference here. But I think that both British gentiles and British Jews would be hard pressed to find a better advocate for their long term interests than the BNP. But again, do not take my word for it but follow the BNP website closely for a while.

Islamophobe quotes: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang

" Vlaams Belang doesn’t like Le Pen’s typically French views of centralisation, his anti-Americanism and his anti-Jewish scoldings and his political position against Israel. In Vlaams Belang’s view, Le Pen has the disastrous illusion that it’s France’s destiny to have a special, privileged relation with the Islamic world." "

Snouck says:
I agree with much of what wikipedia says here. The "French idea" is well embodied in Le Pen's ideology with regards to centralisation and economic policy. There is good reason with regards to Dutch and Flemish tradition to keep a distance from the Front National in this respect. However with regards to Le Pen's attitude towards Jews and Israel consider a interview with Le Pen from a few years ago in Haaretz (the Land) a centrist or centre Left Israeli newspaper, the interview is from 2002 or 2003 if I remember correctly. Read the whole interview. That is an order. I have been trying to find some quotes that can summarize and represent the whole interview, which I find very fair. I have also read reports of Vlaams Belang supporters who met Le Pen recently in a meeting in Gent, Belgium. They were all very impressed with him and with his answers to their questions. I can not read French beyond "vin, pain et fromage", so I can not judge this man so well. He definately has some dodgy connections to Eastern European shady characters that a Pole would not touch with a 10 foot Snouck, so I guess the man is no angel, but in politics there are very few "virgins". Neither Snouck nor someone who calls himself the "Islamophobe" should consider themselves beyond reproach.

Anyway, enjoy the Haaretz interview and wonder how long it will take before you will find anything so fair minded and intellectually challenging in the British Main Stream Media. Who are all bought and paid for by hook-nosed kike puppet masters, anyway. Damn...... I just had to say that, for some reason. Tell me WHERE did that come from, chaps?

I am off to have a beer, enjoy your weekend and do not do anything I would not do. I'll work on an article on the cover-up of Fortuyn's murder this weekend so keep checking this blog. You know you want to..... admit it.

29 comments:

José María said...

How can anybody trust BBC? They manipulate people every day. For instance, they only inform of race or ethnicity if the crime is commited by a White but they silence it otherwise.

I find stupid and almost criminal to try to silence anyone that says a truth because he is a nazi. Truth is Truth and it doesn´t matter who transmit it. Facts, only facts.

Charles Martel said...

that is indeed true jmaria.

however, the right does itself no favours and lends itself to being targetted as "nazi" by the liberal media if it associates with the likes of the British National Party -who have a very long history of outright and seriously ugly racism - and i dont mean made up politcally correct "racism" - i'm talking serious Nazism. They come from what i term the "old school" of the far-right.
I would class Jean Marie Le Pen to be in that mould too (traditionally anti-Jewish, and pro-Arab)

vlaams belang's pro-Israel and pro-free market stance is refreshing. Pim Fortuyn was another, who broke the mould.

It is Fortuyn's form of far-right that offers the best hope to combat the Islamification of Europe. The liberal media just could NOT pin him down - he was far right, but a friend of Israel. he was far right - but gay.

that really screwed up the liberal media - they couldnt label him a "Nazi"

see where i'm coming from?

nouille said...

Le Pen has the disastrous illusion that it’s France’s destiny to have a special, privileged relation with the Islamic world."

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France not just Le Pen seems to think it has a special destiny w/ all of the muslim world - IMO.
No world leader has done more to court the Arab than Jacques Chirac. He was the only Western President who attended the funeral of Hafez Assad in Damascus.

When Arafat lay dying, Paris was the capital of Palestine.

French arms sales men, oil companies,and bankers are ubiquitous from Morocco to the Arabian Gulf!

nouille said...

Islamaphobe said: would class Jean Marie Le Pen to be in that mould too (traditionally anti-Jewish, and pro-Arab)

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He seems to dislike Arabs as well, even going as far as to blame them for French unemployment.

Charles Martel said...

what perplexes me , in their fawning to the Islamists , is that the like of the BBC/UK government and the French elite , seem to ignore all the Nazi salutes of the terrorists.

i've blogged about it here:

http://islamophobic.blogspot.com/2006/01/why-all-nazi-salutes.html

but , thankfully, i think the penny has finally dropped with Chirac , with his "we will nuke you" threat
http://islamophobic.blogspot.com/2006/01/chirac-in-france-nuke-threat-shocker.html

Could this be Chirac having a Vlaams Blok "road to damascus" moment? For that nationalist Flemish party is now a friend of Israel and has turned anti-Islamist.

We live in interesting times.

Charles Martel said...

sorry - i should have used html to provide the links.

hopefully this should work:
Islamist Nazi salutes
Chirac Nuke threat

Charles Martel said...

for non-UK Snouck readers, the BNP is currently on trial for "racism" - at the SAME time as Abu Hamza is on trial for spouting Islamist "kill the jews" stuff

Abu Hamza trial
Nick Griffin trial

"Both men deny the charges which arose from speeches filmed in 2004 for the BBC documentary, The Secret Agent."
More on BNP trial here

i watched "the secret agent" - at no stage did Mr Griffin EVER call for violence against anyone. that is the truth.

it will be interesting to see how this turns out. my bet is Mr Griffin jailed, Abu Hamza gets off on a "technicality"

Charles Martel said...

from one of the links above:
"Mr Griffin told his audience there was going to be a backlash and urged them to vote for the BNP, so the backlash could be political."

so Mr Griffin was advocating politics OVER violence. and he still gets charged. what a weird P.C. run place the UK has become.

but speaking as an Irish patriot, i am no friend of the BNP - i just want to make that clear. But i can see that there's a kind of witch hunt going on here - a political show trial.

Desmond Jones said...

Griffin is apparently blogging the trial here.

Charles Martel said...

mr jones - i've read the links on snouck about Mr Griffin's denounciation of anti-semitism, and his changing of the party to face the new Islamist threat.

if that is indeed genuine, then i stand corrected - for it is very encouraging.

whilst, Mr Griffin will never get to Number 10, if his party starts to gain seats, it will have the knock on effect of making the other parties face up to the threat of Islamism and immigration from Islamic countries.

as snouck himself says:
"I was shocked when I found out how I had been misled by newspapers and journalists that I had mistakenly trusted. I was and perhaps am cocky and even arrogant about my media savvyness because they had pulled the wool over my eyes."

indeed - i have too journeyed on that path and come to that conclusion myself too.

Charles Martel said...

in nick griffins blog (thanks mr. jones)
he says

"On the issue of the Islamic threat in particular, the parallel would be if, instead of merely being ridiculed as a 'war-monger' throughout the 1930s, Winston Churchill had been imprisoned for "inciting hatred against Nazis and Germans." I write that not as a worshipper of Churchill - I'm not an imperialist, for a start - but simply to point out the non-ideological historical similarities."

indeed. under current UK law, Churchill WOULD have been imprisoned.

and to think that the brave soldiers of D-Day fought for our liberty for it to end up like this - in 2006 UK?

it's just utterly appalling, to any right minded free thinker.

Charles Martel said...

however, and if it is not Griffin i will retract this, he gives the game away in one of the posts
"These truly brilliant minds, some of the best our RACE can produce"

here, i might disagree with Snouck, is terms of the usage of such langauge and the focus on "white" Europeanism. For the coming battle should not be on race terms - it is , in my view, freedom versus Islamism - and we'll need all the allies we can get. To focus on purely the "race" angle will ultimately end in our defeat, for we will not be able to attract the support we need from within the Islamic community - the Arabian people who want to be Christian or atheist , but dare not on pain of death. The North Africans who reject Islamism , but dare not speak out , on pain of death.

For to focus on the "race" thing is like saying "all Russians are communist".

As we learned from Russia, communism was a hollow shell, waiting to be kicked in - and thence it collapsed by itself.

The same is true with Islam in my view. Let's not play the race card - for it does us no favours whatsoever in the coming battle against Islam.

That is my view - Snouck is entitled to disagree - for it is his blog.

José María said...

Islamophobic you are too focused on the dangers of Islam, but there are many others, without denying the danger of Islam.

There are many other dangers, as powerful as Islam´s:

-The leftist "hate speech" laws that have already limited freedom of speech. How freedom lovers can keep silent whenever anyone goes to jail or is threated with it just for his ideas, be it true or untrue? For instance holocaust deniers go to jail in "free Europe", I find it most disgusting and shameful.

-The Zionist control of Media and Government, even in USA and Russia, they have got top Power in key countries of the world. Their hidden agenda I am afraid that leads to a totalitarian world regime.

-Liberals, Leftists, Zionists, all working for the destruction of Western Civilization, through mass immigration, destruction of marriage, Christianity, destruction of the love to the family, the nation and the race.

I know that I am going a step further than the PC speech but it is time things are discussed openly, with facts, without being accused of nazi, racist, fascist or anti-semitic.

Charles Martel said...

"the Zionist control of Media and Government"

as pointed out elsewhere on this blog, even Nick Griffin of the British National Party would disagree with you on that aspect.

i think we'll just have to agree to disagree - and since we're in a free society, thank god we can do it.

in my view, the Zionists are our friends. Israel is the only working democracy in the Middle East - and since i believe in democracy, free speech and free thought, i therefore lend my support to Israel - rather than the tyrannical Islamist states like Saudi or Iran.

but, as i said - we can agree to disagree - but in my view , finding the "anti-zionist" path attractive is a dangerous one, for it blinds you to the Islamist threat, and we need all of the allies we can get.

Charles Martel said...

"The Zionist control of Media and Government, even in USA and Russia, they have got top Power in key countries of the world."

i forgot to add - that is something that the likes of Hamas or Hezbollah or the Iranian president would agree with 100 per cent.

Just stop and think about that for a minute - that is all i ask.

why would you side with an Islamo fascist opinion? think. think. and think again.

Heloise said...

islamophobic says we cannot play the race card and I agree.

Perhaps the best game to play is politics. All nations have laws. Islam is a nation and has the sharia as its legal foundation. In fact, Islam can't really be practiced without the sharia. So whereever there are muslims, there is a form of the sharia, overt or covert. For the nations of this world, this is not a minor point.

José María said...

why would you side with an Islamo fascist opinion? think. think. and think again.
islamofascist you haven´t understood, I repeat what I said "Truth is Truth and it doesn´t matter who transmit it. Facts, only facts. "

Your only concern is that if nazis or Hamas say that Zionists rule the Government and Media it must be false. Well it is true, Zionists overwhelming rule Media, Hollywood, international Bank and key Government offices. It is you who must think and check what I have said. I have thought on that for years.

I find curious that people instead of investigating rejects or admits opinions according to who says them.

The only reason that attacks on Islam are allowed is because help Zionists.

I repeat again, Islam is an Evil but Zionists too. I don´t have to be pro Arabs or pro Jews, neither against them, I am pro pro Western Civilization.

José María said...

Sorry when I said islamofascist I meant islamoprobic.

Snouck said...

JMaria,
Zionists are Jewish Nationalists.
Nationalist put their own people first. So how can Jewish Nationalists be "Evil" when they do the thing that we want for The Netherlands, for the USA, For Ireland of the UK. That is that we put our own people first?

The same with the Muslims. I see the Muslims as a group that can be dangerous to our interests. But they are not "Evil". In the course of looking at Dutch interests I see the Muslims as a small threat to Dutch and Euro Ethnic interests.

The big problem is the Left. Not the Jews, Muslims, Blacks or Hispanics. But our own people. The Whites. The Muslims, Blacks and the Hispanics are only problems because the Left brings them here and does not allow us to freely talk about the differences between us.

I do not know if you live in the USA, where there are 6 million Jews or in Europe where there are hardly any Jews left, due to the activities of GROFAZ Hitler. So the Jews here are no problem, for sad and tragic reasons. And in the USA Jews will have almost completely dissapeared in 50 years due to assimilation, which is a lack of Jewish conciousness. So these Jews are not very good nationalists.

There is still a lot of Jewish influence in the media and Hollowood entertainment plus the neo-conservative wing of the Republican party is almost completely Jewish. So if you critisize these groups you have something of a point. But to say that these Jews cause the problems of the West is bollocks. The problem is that Nationalistic Whites are to cowardly to critisize them when needed. So it is left to Jews like Laurence Auster from Amnation and David Horowitz from Frontpagemag and others to stand up for Western culture against the Leftist attack. Because the Whites are too cowardly and lazy to do it. This should shame us to death.

The Left including the Jewish Left wants Israel to dissappear even! They must live in one state and have equality for the law. Everybody can understand how this will end for the Israeli Jews.

Snouck said...

"(JMaria)The Zionist control of Media and Government, even in USA and Russia, they have got top Power in key countries of the world."

(Islamophobic)i forgot to add - that is something that the likes of Hamas or Hezbollah or the Iranian president would agree with 100 per cent.

why would you side with an Islamo fascist opinion?

Snouck:
Islamophobic, firstly I want to compliment you on the openmindedness you have shown with regards to Nick Griffin. I have in the previous post taken a position on JMaria's stance on Zionism. As far as your stance goes, what you are doing here is to try to tar JMaria's opinion by associating his opinion with the stance of Islamists. However if the Islamists or the Nazi's say that 2 plus 2 equals 4 no matter how odious they are, they are still right. So I think you should try better. "Guilty by association" is not very convincing and I would not be persuaded by it if I were JMaria.

José María said...

Zionists are Jewish Nationalists.
Nationalist put their own people first. So how can Jewish Nationalists be "Evil" when they do the thing that we want for The Netherlands, for the USA, For Ireland of the UK. That is that we put our own people first?


Your point is valid from the point of view of a nationalist Jew but it is wrong if you are an American and you see that "foreigners" are ruling or controlling your country.
I can accept that there are American Jews that are first of all Americans but I am afraid that most of them are Jews and their true home is Israel. What are they doing in USA or Russia in key offices? I don´t think you have to be a genius to know it: influence the foreign policy of those countries and take advantage on their own people (Jews).

Islam is more clearly an Evil because they want to dominate the World and they don´t hide it as Zionists may be doing.

The big problem is the Left. Not the Jews,
I agree, but did you know that Soviet Revolution was organized and led by Jews in more than 90% of its first leaders? They were also financied by international bankers (predominantly Jews). This facts are usually "forgotten".

in Europe where there are hardly any Jews left,
Jewish population in 2005
France 606,561 Jews
Great Britain 302,207 Jews
Germany 107,160 Jews
Although Russia is not fully Europe it can be conceded that a part is Europe and they have 717,101 Jews.
The rest of European countries have a minor representation.
In total we have around 2,000,000 Jews, I don´t think that there are few.

But to say that these Jews cause the problems of the West is bollocks.
I agree because generalizations are stupid but there are a prominent role in West´s Evils caused by Jews, one of the most notorious is Communism. Others are Feminism and Multiculturalism.

Charles Martel said...

"there are a prominent role in West´s Evils caused by Jews, one of the most notorious is Communism. Others are Feminism and Multiculturalism."

thats bollocks.

most of the current UK government are made up of left wing Scottish Protestants - and they have pushed the multicultural agenda like crazy.

Please, lets not get into the debates of the 1930s.

With the current threat from the Muslim "ummah", i'm afraid that the Israeli Zionists will turn out to be our greatest friends. Ok, the Zionists are pushing the Israeli nationalist agenda - but Israel is a tolerant democracy - with free speech. It's an outpost of European values - an oasis - in a sea of medieval , regressive Islam. And by god are they well able to hit back at the Islamists.

With the current E.U. , there wouldnt be any "hitting back" - just loads of talk , loads of edicts and no action.

Thank god for Israel - god knows how many terrorists in Europe their Mossad agents have bumped off (and indirectly saved European lives)

Charles Martel said...
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Charles Martel said...

jmaria

you might not have seen this , but in case you haven't have a look at this:

Why all the Nazi salutes?

and i have heard that "mein kampf" is a current best seller in Gaza.

So, ask yourself - who is your friend right now - the Zionists or the anti-Zionists?

José María said...

islamophobic, you seem to have a problem of understanding, I will repeat it again and I hope that it will be the last, if you don´t understand it, please don´t make me lose my time:

Neither Muslims nor Zionists are my friends and I support none of them. Again?

You lack historical information if you don´t know that October Revolution was organized and financed bt Jews.

Desmond Jones said...

Darwin outlines why race is important.

"On the Extinction of the Races of Man.- The partial or complete
extinction of many races and sub-races of man is historically known.
Humboldt saw in South America a parrot which was the sole living
creature that could speak a word of the language of a lost tribe.

Extinction follows chiefly from the competition of tribe with tribe,
and race with race. Various checks are always in action, serving to
keep down the numbers of each savage tribe,- such as periodical
famines, nomadic habits and the consequent deaths of infants,
prolonged suckling, wars, accidents, sickness, licentiousness, the
stealing of women, infanticide, and especially lessened fertility. If any one of these checks increases in power, even slightly, the tribe thus affected tends to decrease; and when of two adjoining tribes one becomes less numerous and less powerful than the other, the contest is soon settled by war, slaughter, cannibalism, slavery, and absorption. Even when a weaker tribe is not thus abruptly swept away, if it once begins to decrease, it generally goes on decreasing until it becomes extinct."

Prof. Kevin MacDonald on Stalin's Willing Executioner's:

" Yuri Slezkine’s book The Jewish Century, which appeared last year to rapturous reviews, is an intellectual tour de force, alternately muddled and brilliant, courageous and apologetic. Slezkine’s greatest accomplishment is to set the historical record straight on the importance of Jews in the Bolshevik Revolution and its aftermath. He summarizes previously available data and extends our understanding of the Jewish role in revolutionary movements before 1917 and of Soviet society thereafter. His book provides a fascinating chronicle of the Jewish rise to elite status in all areas of Soviet society—culture, the universities, professional occupations, the media, and government. Indeed, the book is also probably the best, most up-to-date account of Jewish economic and cultural pre-eminence in Europe (and America) that we have.

The once-common view that the Bolshevik Revolution was a Jewish revolution and that the Soviet Union was initially dominated by Jews has now been largely eliminated from modern academic historiography. The current view, accepted by almost all contemporary historians, is that Jews played no special role in Bolshevism and indeed, were uniquely victimized by it.

Slezkine’s book provides abracing corrective to this current view."

Eric Margolis writes,
" The precise number of Ukrainians murdered by Stalin's custom-made famine and Cheka firing squads remains unknown to this day. KGB's archives, and recent work by Russian historians, shows at least 7 million Ukrainians died. Ukrainian historians put the figure at 9 million, or higher. Twenty-five percent of Ukraine's population was exterminated.

Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during collectivization. Stalin told Churchill he liquidated ten million peasants during the 1930's. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania; the genocide of 3 million Muslims of the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans. In total, Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war dead.

Kaganovitch, and many senior OGPU officers( later, NKVD) were Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin's Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic, and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region's innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts, and Poles."

Pat Buchanan and the Four Jewish Horsemen of the Frankfurt School,

"The Frankfort School would patent the familiar "Critical Theory" which was accurately defined by a student as the "essentially destructive criticism of all the main elements of Western culture, including Christianity, capitalism, authority, the family, patriarchy, hierarchy, morality, tradition, sexual restraint, loyalty, patriotism, nationalism, heredity, ethnocentrism, convention, and conservatism."

Charles Martel said...

"Neither Muslims nor Zionists are my friends and I support none of them. Again?"

indeed , we'll just have to agree to disagree.

"You lack historical information if you don´t know that October Revolution was organized and financed by Jews. "

The 1917 revolution was funded by the Germans actually, as a means of knocking Russia out of World War One.

Charles Martel said...

jmaria: "islamophobic you are too focused on the dangers of Islam, but there are many others, without denying the danger of Islam.
There are many other dangers, as powerful as Islam´s"

those dangers you speak of , can be handled in a normal , democratic debate. I dont see many leftists wanting to be suicide bombers.

But in light of Iran wanting to build a nuclear bomb - and also in light of the Iranian presidents recent announcement of funding Hezbollah to the tune of $100 million, i am afraid that the focus right now in the world HAS to be the threat of Islam.

Once we win the battle against Islam, we can go back to our normal democratic discourse - our normal left versus right debate (with nobody being killed) - our normal civillised European ways.

Let's not lose focus - and also bear in mind that in order to fight the Iranian threat, we will have to make friends with the Zionist wing of Israeli politics.

I'm left of centre naturally, and I've ended up on Snock's right wing Dutch nationlist blog - but i'm prepared to let ideological differences go to one side in the face of a bigger threat that will wipe out European civilisation. Namely - an Iran with Nukes.


if you dont see my point, then thats ok - we live in a free society , thank God.

José María said...

Islamophobic, I have little desire to discuss with you, much less if you are somehow a leftist, truth and leftists are an oxymoron. You started denying the Jew conexion in October Revolution and now you deny the financement, O.K. I will give only a source, the revolution was financed by the international bankers, Jews mainly, no matter their nationality.

For more on Communism and Jews see here.

I reject Islam strongly and you don´t have to convince me of its danger and the necessity of its destruction if reform is not possible, but I want to fight it independently of Zionists, I don´t trust them, I would not be surprised that their agenda aimed also to world domination.

I will not defend an attack on Iran. We have been fooled with Irak and I don´t want a new deceit.