Islamophobe:
Snouck - you might not know this but the BNP are a national socialist party and notoriously anti-semitic. The first thing they would do if they ever got into power would be to abolish free speech.
Interesting comment Islamophobe and one I was hoping to provoke. Naturally when one looks at the Nationalist Right in the West, one is always wary, expecting to find Homophobia, Anti-Christianity, Anti-Semitism. Amongst those attracted to the position of the pro-ethnic Euro political parties, one can only expect people with a higher than average hostility to other ethnicities, which may translate in positions of seeing a conspiring bunch of Jews under every stone and behind every tree.
Therefore your suspicion of the BNP and Front National is warranted and I have shared the same suspicion. I was also convinced that Dutch nationalist parties such as the Centrum Democraten and CP '86 were sympathisers of National Socialism. During the 90ies therefore I was never interested in these Nationalist movements because the press confirmed my suspicions. However during the 2001-2002 Fortuyn revolution IT savvy supporters of Fortuyn set up pro-Fortuyn forums such as the now defunct www.pimfortuyndiscussie.nl where attacks in the media (De Linkse Kerk - The Church of the Left) would be analysed. One of the shocking things that the supporters of Fortuyn helped me understand is how the Church of the Left - the media routinely carries out these smear campaigns against those who try to break the PC consensus. Because the party programs of the Dutch Nationalist Centrum Democraten were not National Socialist or Fascist at all nor were the publications or the utterances of the leaders of these parties. However the press constantly tries to connect European Nationalists with National-Socialism and genocidal anti-semitism. I did not read the threat on nationalist splinter CP'86, but I closely followed the explanations of the messages in the press about the Centrum Democrats and the violent campaign by government subsidised Leftist groups against the Centrum Democrats. I was shocked when I found out how I had been misled by newspapers and journalists that I had mistakenly trusted. I was and perhaps am cocky and even arrogant about my media savvyness because they had pulled the wool over my eyes.
Islamophobe, I saw on your blog that you are aware of the slanted representation of the news on the BBC in their reports on Israel. The sad news is that the BBC is about as thrustworthy as good old Pravda concerning their coverage of the BNP.
Although the antecedents of the BNP are murky the party has turned around and distanced itself from Fascism, Nazism and Anti-Semitism. The party is now genuinly pro-democratic and takes a stance which is just pro-ethnic British. Off course there may still be members of the BNP who are Anti-Semitic and who use Jewish conspiracy theories for all instances where Europeans shoot or have shot themselves in the foot, just as there are Jews who blame everything that goes wrong with Jews on hatefull Goyim. However the leadership is purged of such people. If you visit the BNP website and you read their messages for months you will never find any pro-Nazi views nor any offensive remarks on Jews. None. Zero. En klum, shun-dabar. As far as this goes Israeli Jews are often sharper and more savvy in distinguishing between alleged anti-Semitism and the genuine article, also because most Israelis are themselves genuine Nationalists, so they recognize the true thing when they meet it. To give you a good Jewish source on the BNP, try Frontpagemag contributor Roger Locke, who
wrote on the BNP:
"1. The BNP has now evolved to the point where it doesn't have any significant antagonism towards Jews as such, or towards Israel. Unlike the left, it has no interest in Palestinians or the larger Arab cause, and it takes the Islamic threat seriously. It has zero inclination to actively side against Israel, simply because it really wants to have nothing to do with the Middle East at all. Griffin said:
"As nationalists, our duty is to work to build a better country for our own people, not to worry about or interfere in the affairs of others. The Middle East is simply not our problem or our business." "
AND
On the specific question of anti-Semitism, Griffin said this:
"Look -- we have very serious enemies in this country, both at home and abroad. If you're going to go with that old [National Front] nonsense of Jews under every bed and responsible for all the ills of the world, then you're going to have a crazy strategic vision of who you're fighting and what to do about it. The idea that 'the Jew is the enemy' is simply over for us now, and not a moment too soon, because now we can get on with the real struggles."
He qualified this by saying:
"We insist on the right to criticize individual Jews who do wrong or Jewish groups which use the influence and power that all organized and motivated groups have to lobby, for example, for British foreign policy to take directions at odds with our national interest. But there is a world of difference between such criticism and the old fantasies about Learned Elders of Zion controlling the world, and the rabid anti-Semitism that they reflect and incite." "
These quotes from Robert Locke's interview should point my readers in the right direction. Please read the whole interview, it is very instructive. Do not take my or Robert Locke's word for it. If you are British visit the BNP website at http://www.bnp.org.uk regularly and check what they put up there. Follow them for a few months and compare the reporting in the Main Stream Media. Then come to your own conclusions.
Further on Islamophobe says:
"so , the comparision to Vlams Blok(now Vlams Belang) is unfair, considering that Vlaams Belang is pro-Israel."
Snouck says: Vlaams Belang is pro-Israel, just like the Danske Folkeparti. The BNP is neutral towards Israel. Indeed there is a difference here. But I think that both British gentiles and British Jews would be hard pressed to find a better advocate for their long term interests than the BNP. But again, do not take my word for it but follow the BNP website closely for a while.
Islamophobe quotes: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlaams_Belang
" Vlaams Belang doesn’t like Le Pen’s typically French views of centralisation, his anti-Americanism and his anti-Jewish scoldings and his political position against Israel. In Vlaams Belang’s view, Le Pen has the disastrous illusion that it’s France’s destiny to have a special, privileged relation with the Islamic world." "
Snouck says:
I agree with much of what wikipedia says here. The "French idea" is well embodied in Le Pen's ideology with regards to centralisation and economic policy. There is good reason with regards to Dutch and Flemish tradition to keep a distance from the Front National in this respect. However with regards to Le Pen's attitude towards Jews and Israel consider
a interview with Le Pen from a few years ago in Haaretz (the Land) a centrist or centre Left Israeli newspaper, the interview is from 2002 or 2003 if I remember correctly. Read the whole interview. That is an order. I have been trying to find some quotes that can summarize and represent the whole interview, which I find very fair. I have also read reports of Vlaams Belang supporters who met Le Pen recently in a meeting in Gent, Belgium. They were all very impressed with him and with his answers to their questions. I can not read French beyond "vin, pain et fromage", so I can not judge this man so well. He definately has some dodgy connections to Eastern European shady characters that a Pole would not touch with a 10 foot Snouck, so I guess the man is no angel, but in politics there are very few "virgins". Neither Snouck nor someone who calls himself the "Islamophobe" should consider themselves beyond reproach.
Anyway, enjoy the Haaretz interview and wonder how long it will take before you will find anything so fair minded and intellectually challenging in the British Main Stream Media. Who are all bought and paid for by hook-nosed kike puppet masters, anyway. Damn...... I just had to say that, for some reason. Tell me WHERE did that come from, chaps?
I am off to have a beer, enjoy your weekend and do not do anything I would not do. I'll work on an article on the cover-up of Fortuyn's murder this weekend so keep checking this blog. You know you want to..... admit it.
