Monday, December 12, 2005

Iraqi fighter will be handed over to USA justice

A Rotterdam court today decided that Wesam al D., an Iraqi asylum seeker will be handed over to the USA for a trial. Wesam al D. had received Dutch citizenship. The asylum seeker travelled to The Netherlands to ask for asylum because he was politically persecuted in Iraq. He received Asylum status and later Dutch citizenship. In 2004 he travelled back to Iraq and filmed attacks by Iraqi's resisting the American occupation of Iraq.

The USA are looking for these people who support attacks on their forces. The film would have been used for distribution amongst Muslims in the Middle East, Europe and the USA to drum up money and recruits for the Iraqi's fighting the US Army in Iraq.

Wesam's laywer argued that Wesam would be branded a terrroist by the Americans and would not get a fair trial. Also he might be tortured and held without trial in Guantanamo. Finally there was also a suit against him by the Dutch public persecutor.

However the judge decided that the interest of the USA was more important than the interest of the Dutch public persecutor.

I have mixed feelings about this case. Everything seems wrong. Wesam obviously received asylum status and even Dutch citizenship under false pretenses. The man is a liar, a cheat and and embarrassement to The Netherlands. In short, a liability, not an asset.

However I think that the case for the American occupation of Iraq is highly doubtful. I do not understand the benefit of occupying Iraq. I do not see how it diminishes the treat to the USA. I do not see how it can bring closer the survival of the West. The Americans and their allies, including the Dutch Forces are foreign occupiers there. I can understand that Iraqi's fight the occupiers. I also admire the initiative and bravery of these people who organise the fight against their enemies themselves, instead of having the state organise it.

If they want to get rid of the Westerners in their lands they have my blessing. It is just that I very much want to get rid of the Islamists in our lands.


nouille said...

Our Schools need funding, our cities need re building, our troops should get the hell out of Iraq. What a quagmire!

Snouck said...

I was at a party this weekend and met a businessman who just came back from the USA. Very pro-US but he said: "It is the land of backlog in maintainance" about US roads and bridges. I hear this a lot from travellers to the US. I have not been to the US myself, btw.

nouille said...

Sorry to comment so late.

My friends who are from all over Europe are amazed at how such "a rich country" can have roads in such ned of repair, Frankly It makes me angry when I see how much money goes into the military whilst our schools are poorly funded and over crowded! The levees that broke in New Orleans were neglected until it was too late. This catastrophe could of been avoided or at least made less severe.

When 3.7% goes to Education but 30% goes to military it's no wonder America has the distinct honour of being called the dumbest nation.

Btw, as you know, the Dutch founded America along with other Europeans, there are still cities here with Dutch names! So naturally you are welcome here anytime! : )

Dutch West India Company settled a large parcel of land in the eastern United States, which in the 1600's became known as New Netherland. The borders of New Netherland would have stretched, in modern times, from southern Delaware through New Jersey and east-central Pennsylvania into eastern and central New York, including Long Island and Manhattan. The Dutch influence on these areas is still felt today, and many towns and cities in the U.S. were named after the towns from which the Dutch settlers had emigrated.

The Bowery, New York: named after the Dutch bouwerij or boerderij, meaning the farm.

Block Island, Rhode Island: named after the Dutch explorer Adriaen Block in 1614.

The Bronx, New York: one of the earliest settlers in New Netherland was Jonas Bronck. Bronck had a farm just north of Manhattan and people travelling in this area spoke of "going to the Broncks'." The name of the area was anglicized after 1664.

Brooklyn, New York: the original Dutch settlement on Long Island was named Breuckelen after the town in the Netherlands.

Cape May, New Jersey: Named after the sea captain and first governor of New Netherland, Cornelis Jacobsz May.

Catskill, New York and Pennsylvania: A Dutch map from 1656 calls this area "Kats Kill," kats meaning lions, tigers, cats, etc., and kill meaning stream or creek.

Cobleskill, New York: or Coble's stream after Jacob Kobell, an early Dutch settler.

Coney Island, New York: derives its name from the Dutch Conyne Eylandt, or rabbit island.

Drenthe, Michigan: named after the Dutch province.

East River, New York: A Dutch map from 1656 refers to the river as the Oost Rivier, or East River. At that time, the Hudson river was known as the Noort Rivier or North River and the Delaware River was known as the Zuydt Rivier or South River.

Fish Kill, New York: an anglicization of the Dutch vischers kill, or fisher's stream.

Flushing, New York: the original Dutch settlement on Long Island was named Vlissingen after the Dutch harbor town. The British had long referred to Vlissingen as Flushing, and after 1664 the English name was adopted.

Gramercy, New York: this Long Island district took its name from colloquial Dutch krom-marisje, or crooked marsh.

Gravesend, New York: named after the Dutch city Gravesant.

Greenwich, New York: from the Dutch greenwyck or "pine area."

Harlem, New York: named after the important Dutch city Haarlem. Local residents resisted British attempts to rename the town Lancaster.

Hells Gate, New York: after the Dutch equivalent Helle Gadt, so-named because of the dangerous tidal currents.

Hempstead, New York: after the Dutch city Heemstede.

Hoboken, New Jersey: named after the village Hoboken, which was formerly in the United Provinces (forerunner of the present-day Netherlands) and now is found in northern Belgium.

Lansing, Michigan: named after the prominent Dutch Lansing family.

Long Island, New York: named by Adriaen Block 't Lange Eylandt--the long island.

Nassau County, New York: named after the Dutch Prince of Orange-Nassau.

Rhode Island: 't Roode Eylandt, or red island, found on a map drawn by Dutch explorer Adriaen Block.

Sandy Hook, New Jersey: after the Dutch Sant Punt or sand point, but Hoek, or hook, was also commonly used.

Saugerties, New York: after the Dutch Zagers Killetje or Zagers' stream. Zagers was the first Dutch settler on the stream.

Saybrook, Connecticut: after the port in northern Belgium, Zeebroeck, or sea river.

Schuylkill, New York and Pennsylvania: after the Dutch schuilplaats--the hiding place, referring to an early incident in which a Swedish ship lay hidden in the stream, or kill, hence Schuylkill.

Staten Island, New York: a Dutch map refers to the island as "Staten Eylandt," after the Dutch States-General, the predecessor of the current Dutch parliament.

Swanwyck, Delaware: named after the Dutch Swaenewyck, or swan place.

Tarrytown, New York: a Dutch settler established a wheat mill at the point where the Pocantico empties into the Hudson River. The settlement became known as tarwe town--tarwe is the Dutch word for wheat.

Teaneck, New Jersey: possibly of two origins, one after the Dutch family Ten Eyck, or after the Dutch Tiende Neck, meaning tenth curve (in the Hackensack River.)

Wallabout Bay, New York: from the Dutch Waalen Boogt meaning the Walloon's Curve.

Snouck said...

Thanks for your very long post, Nouille. I used to read one of my dad's books when I was a kid: New York, the way it was, 1850 to 1895. In it there where 19th century pen drawings of all the big bridges and subways and new residential areas that where built on the then out skirts of New York. Also there where drawings of the farms and townships that where dissapearing under 19th century modernity. Most of the rivers, farms, townships villages had Dutch names and building styles. A very melancholy book for a Dutch boy. But beautiful melancholy.

Your Dutch spelling is perfect btw even the difficult old spelling. Did you study Dutch. I was under the impression you lived in Brussels when you were in Europe.

The US DOES spend too much on defense and too little on education. And the whole world usually profits from the presence of the US Forces. Europe will have to learn to stand on its own feet in order to take on Islamism. The US spends to much both government spending and private spending are toohigh. The world will be in the throws of a difficult reajustment when US spending will be cut and US demand will drop due to the necessity to pay back loans.

When the Americans start to concentrate on Home defense ("bring the troops from the Eufrates to the Rio Grande") and cut their defense budget to a manageble level Europe will be in for an unpleasant surprise. So far we have been getting a free ride and so have many other parts of the world.

Where in the USA do you live, Nouille?

nouille said...

Snouck: I did indeed live in Brusssels. I have extended family there, both French(from France) and Belgian Flemmish.

I live in Los Angeles, one of the most "multi cultural"capitals in the U.S.

The long post about Dutch America came from the U.S. Netherlands Embassy site. I tried to post the source but had troubles doing so. :D

this is also interesting, sorry to post so much!

Snouck said...

No it is great and an honour that you post!

So you got both Walloon and Flemmish in you? I hope you are not Shizophrenic then?

What do you think about Mexican immigration. Do you think it is sustainable?